DCUO

[ZombieSareini]

My review, it is finally up!

...except it apparently time travelled as I'm told it's been up since January 4th. An especially nifty trick when you realise that DCUO wasn't even released then.

I'm special.

(Also, they changed my title, so just rename it to "Now you can be Superman's Pal, [Insert Name Here!]" when you read it )

[gothicshark]

Jan 25, 2011 16:31:59 GMT -5 ZombieSareini said:

My review, it is finally up!

so I read your review and found it interesting... However, I have something I should point out:

In the end, DCUO is still a (very) new game, and in the genre of superhero MMOs, it doesn't have too many competitors.

though it someways this is true, with only two current Hero MMOs and a forth in development.

here are the latest estimate market numbers

Name of MMO---------est player base----% market share
Anarchy Online-------12,000-------------0.03%
Champions Online----100,000-------------0.24%
City of Heroes------200,000-------------0.48%
Dark Age of Camelot-125,000-------------0.30%
Dofus-------------1,500,000-------------3.62%
EVE Online----------200,000-------------0.48%
EverQuest-----------200,000-------------0.48%
EverQuest II--------185,000-------------0.45%
Final Fantasy XI--1,500,000-------------3.62%
Guild Wars--------6,000,000-------------14.50%
Knight Online-----4,250,000-------------10.27%
Lineage II--------1,300,000-------------3.14%
MapleStory--------5,000,000-------------12.08%
Rise: The Vieneo Province-4,000-------------0.01%
RuneScape---------8,200,000-------------19.81%
Tibia---------------300,000-------------0.72%
WAR-----------------300,000-------------0.72%
WonderKing Online-----8,802-------------0.02%
World of Warcraft-12,000,000-------------29.00%
------------------41,384,802

[ghostveil]

The EVE Online numbers are way, way off. EVE Online currently has over 350,000 subscribers, a far cry from 200,000. I'd really question the source of those numbers based on that alone...

[ardua]

Sare is correct. There are only two competitors in the superhero genre.

Fantasy != Sci fi
Sci fi != Superhero games
Your point != anything of use.

[ZombieSareini]

Now, now, people, just sit back and bask in my awesomeness

Although I'll bow to people who can actually read and understand those numbers (I have dyscalculia, and so I'm just seeing a lot of 0s with some switching numbers that make no sense) on the subject of subscribers and market shares. I was only focusing on the Superhero sub-genre anyway.

[gothicshark]

the numbers are mostly based for the month of December 2010 with this said many MMO companies are saying one thing while their quarterly statements are saying something different.

At the High point of City of X it had just over 400,000 subscribers, NC Soft is still making a profit with it but they have stopped posting subscription Numbers so the Subscription Number is based on Paragons Profit statements, which have shown a steady decline since 2007, with this the current estimate based on current profit statements sits around 200,000 subscribers. Champions and Cryptic have been upfront with there numbers and they are sitting on 100,000 which is why they have gone to the free to play market plan.

Now when you use City's high point numbers of 400,000k subscribers from release to 2007, and look at the total Hero MMO player base we end up with numbers about 300,000k which means there could possibly be another 100,000k Hero MMO players out there, My feeling with DCUO is they will have a six month surge with a six month decline where they will hit about 100,000k players.

[drjackwolfe]

8 million people play runescape? Crap. These are total market numbers I'd be the direct competitor pool is much tighters.

Only 200,000 play Eve? Wow as much as I get killed I thought it would be more. (By the by new eve patch dropped last night, intresting and the new character creator is online, remade Kyree...great control.)

[The Cheshire Cat]

The thing about Eve isn't so much that they've got millions of subscribers, it's that they're the only MMO that's had a steady increase in the rate of subscriptions since launch. All other MMOs have a huge surge at launch, lose a bunch a few months later, and then spend the rest of their existence kind of slowly hemorrhaging players, with occasional transfusions at expansion pack releases. Eve, on the other hand, has just kept gaining subscribers.

[ZombieSareini]

It certainly doesn't hurt EVE that they've worked out a way for people to pay for their subscription with in-game money (admittedly a lot of it, but I have a friend who's gotten so good he hasn't paid real cash in months).

[ghostveil]

Jan 26, 2011 13:09:18 GMT -5 drjackwolfe said:

8 million people play runescape? Crap. These are total market numbers I'd be the direct competitor pool is much tighters.

Only 200,000 play Eve? Wow as much as I get killed I thought it would be more. (By the by new eve patch dropped last night, intresting and the new character creator is online, remade Kyree...great control.)

Over 350,000 people play EVE, as I said above. The numbers in the post above are off on a lot of the games they listed, by huge amounts. The EVE numbers left off almost half the subscribers.

As for paying for subscriptions with in-game money, every subscription is paid for with real money...it's just a matter of who paid for it. If you have enough in game money, you can play off of other people's real life money.

[evilbenfranklin]

Sadly, my game budget is strapped, right now. I'm even considering turning off the COH account. Thus, it'll be awhile, and while I dearly love DC, the things I've heard discourage me.

I still remember the disappointment that STO eventually turned out to be.

[Dedlok]

Here's a video review of the game done by Ozzie Arcane (formerly? not sure as I stopped going there myself) of the City of Heroes boards.

You can spot my villain in it at various parts. (like at 5:50 an about 8 min in the Ice Armor form and briefly in his actual costume at 8:15. Just don't blink. >_>)

[ghostveil]

Feb 6, 2011 5:24:23 GMT -5 Dedlok said:

Here's a video review of the game done by Ozzie Arcane (formerly? not sure as I stopped going there myself) of the City of Heroes boards.

You can spot my villain in it at various parts. (like at 5:50 an about 8 min in the Ice Armor form and briefly in his actual costume at 8:15. Just don't blink. >_>)

Good review, really felt like a review from a player's standpoint, it spoke to me pretty well. Addressed all the concerns I'd have about the game in one way or another, no other review has really gone over all the important bits like this one did, at least for my preferences in an MMO in this genre.

That said, I'm still going to wait on a free trial before diving in headfirst.

[caios]

I like the fact that this is action oriented. ( and from the look of things it's ACTUALLY action oriented instead of just being advertised as such ) And it sounds like it has a ton of cool features, along with a ton of annoying bugs, all of which one would expect from any new MMO.

In the end the biggest problem with this game to me is that I'd be better off playing CoH. In the and CoH is just way too far ahead simply by virtue of being out, active, and profitable for over six years. It's the same reason why all those fantasy mmo's failed when up against WoW. If people want to play a fantasy MMO, might as well stick with the one they're already playing, and if people want to play a superhero MMO, might as well stick with CoH.

That said, I will probably break down and get stupid and buy the game anyway out of sheer desperate curiosity. What can I say, I'm weak.

[gothicshark]

Feb 7, 2011 15:05:11 GMT -5 caios said:

I like the fact that this is action oriented. ( and from the look of things it's ACTUALLY action oriented instead of just being advertised as such ) And it sounds like it has a ton of cool features, along with a ton of annoying bugs, all of which one would expect from any new MMO.

In the end the biggest problem with this game to me is that I'd be better off playing CoH. In the and CoH is just way too far ahead simply by virtue of being out, active, and profitable for over six years. It's the same reason why all those fantasy mmo's failed when up against WoW. If people want to play a fantasy MMO, might as well stick with the one they're already playing, and if people want to play a superhero MMO, might as well stick with CoH.

That said, I will probably break down and get stupid and buy the game anyway out of sheer desperate curiosity. What can I say, I'm weak.

lets face it you rolled a happy prime with a D20 that's the real reason.